My question is, when one is experiencing a moment of possession, is there anything to do in the moment. When I become possessed, I try to bring myself back here and I get no response, I try to breath but it's very forced and uncomfortable, I try sf but I feel no clarity.
Is it best to just wait it out, like, breathe until it's over? Or to apply the tools even if they don't seem to be working? When I get like that I feel like it's going to last forever.
Also, if bulimics are possessed all the time, does that mean I am too with ocd? Possessed all the time?
Darryl
As possession is entirely energetic in nature, I found that there was really nothing I could do until the energy ran out of juice. The best way I found to keep a possession going is to keep feeding it thoughts and back chats that built up the possession in the first place. Changing environments sometimes helped me, as did physical movement, self-forgiveness. But if I kept entertaining the thoughts, the possession just lasted longer until it eventually depletes.
KimKline Makes sense darryl. Thanks
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Maya
Yeah, I agree with Darryl - Changing the environment - doing something different.
For me it is either watching TV, playing the guitar, Walking out side with the dogs or going to sleep - what ever i can do to not feed the energy more than its already is.
Though - to make sure I won't suppress the point by going to sleep or occupying myself - i take on this point once i'm back here.
Another supporting way is to talk with a Destonian on skype. where i know that i'm not seeing myself, not able to support myself and direct myself due to the possession, the other stand as a support pillar as equal as one as me, and thus able to show me what i've allowed that manifested to possession. then i apply SF with or without the other being.
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KimKline Thanks Maya.
I actually just applied your advice, I was having trouble focusing just now (I'm doing research for a term paper), I was going in to a possession where I felt I had very little control over myself so I went to go lie down for a bit.
I experienced a really bad physical feeling, not pain, but extreme discomfort. Is this normal? Is it connected to not feeding energy? Have anyone else experienced this?
Anna
Quote:The best way I found to keep a possession going is to keep feeding it thoughts and back chats that built up the possession in the first place.-End quote.
LOL Darryl - Yes.
Cathy Quote: KimKline
I experienced a really bad physical feeling, not pain, but extreme discomfort. Is this normal? Is it connected to not feeding energy? Have anyone else experienced this?
Hi Kim - I'm not quite sure exactly how you experienced what you're referring to as a 'bad physical feeling', though, I have had similar where it almost felt like an impending doom rising from within me. Continue breathing and allow any 'energy' to move through you. Also a couple of times I allowed an external event together with thoughts to become internalized within me where I would experience anxiety which was generated from the starting point of fear which I then experienced similar. What assisted me was to write out what my thoughts were before and exactly how I was experiencing myself in the moment as detailed as possible.
Anna KimKline wrote:
Thanks Maya.
I actually just applied your advice, I was having trouble focusing just now (I'm doing research for a term paper), I was going in to a possession where I felt I had very little control over myself so I went to go lie down for a bit.
I experienced a really bad physical feeling, not pain, but extreme discomfort. Is this normal? Is it connected to not feeding energy? Have anyone else experienced this? -End Quote.
I often experience physical uncomfortably during the day and often it will be in relation to a specific point. So what I can do is to write it out, ask myself: what was the thoughts right before this experience started? I also check Veno's Structural Resonance documents for reference.
Besides this - simply doing something Physical is the most Supportive I have found -and being focused within a specific point, such as writing.
Kimkline: Thanks Cathy and Anna.
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Hi Kim - I'm not quite sure exactly how you experienced what you're referring to as a 'bad physical feeling', though, I have had similar where it almost felt like an impending doom rising from within me. Continue breathing and allow any 'energy' to move through you. Also a couple of times I allowed an external event together with thoughts to become internalized within me where I would experience anxiety which was generated from the starting point of fear which I then experienced similar. What assisted me was to write out what my thoughts were before and exactly how I was experiencing myself in the moment as detailed as possible.
I'm not quite sure either Cathy, but it's been happening more, well, maybe 7-8 times. It's usually right when I lie down, but only if it's a self-directed lying down where I'm directing myself to lie down because I'm feeling possessed or something.
I've thought about it being doom or anxiety, but I'm pretty familiar with those feelings, this is different. It's purely physical.
It happens so few and far between that I don't remember to take note of what I was thinking just before it happens, I just go for the ride and it throws me for a loop. -End Quote.
Thanks for the advice. I'll remember to take note next time now that I've brought it up and talked about it.
KimKline
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Also, if bulimics are possessed all the time, does that mean I am too with ocd? Possessed all the time?
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The best way I found to keep a possession going is to keep feeding it thoughts and back chats that built up the possession in the first place.
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lol!
Maya
KimKline wrote:
I experienced a really bad physical feeling, not pain, but extreme discomfort. Is this normal? Is it connected to not feeding energy? Have anyone else experienced this?
As I experience it, the discomfort indicates compounded energy due to acceptance and allowed back chat.
When I have this uncomforted feeling, it is usually when i already see the solution or what I'm require to do, but at the same time I don't want to, not willing to let go and actually change. Than, it is manifested as huge headache - which is already manifested consequence.
KimKline
You might be on to something Maya. I think I know where to start. Thank you.
Maya KimKline wrote:
You might be on to something Maya. I think I know where to start. Thank you.
Awesome - keep us updated
KimKline
I'm pretty sure what it was is the fact that I had realized a problem, done the necessary self-forgiveness, written my self-corrective statements, declared that I was ready to live them, and then opportunity upon opportunity went by as I continuously avoided facing myself.
The experience of absolute frustration and possibly hopelessness/anger within myself had built up to a point where I could no longer focus, I went to go lie down to diffuse it and it had become physical.
It had to do with directing myself within schoolwork which is what I started my 21 days of writing with. I have a particular experience within school because I had a formative experience as a child where I would go completely into the mind and escape during school, waiting out the day as if it were some form of torture I had to be subjected to -patterns I have been falling for ever since. I was labeled as 'slow' and put in special classes which confirmed to me any self-definition I had held of being incapable of doing what others could do. I felt like I had a design flaw so what was the point in trying?
So now I'm facing this accepted and allowed behaviour after more than 20 years of it being a big part of who I have accepted and allowed myself to become. It has been frustrating me that I see the problem and have not walked my self-stated solution. Luckily I'm back in the same situation with having to direct my focus through a large project today, so I'll be back at it, pushing myself to walk my self-correction.
Ann KimKline wrote:
I'm pretty sure what it was is the fact that I had realized a problem, done the necessary self-forgiveness, written my self-corrective statements, declared that I was ready to live them, and then opportunity upon opportunity went by as I continuously avoided facing myself.
The experience of absolute frustration and possibly hopelessness/anger within myself had built up to a point where I could no longer focus, I went to go lie down to diffuse it and it had become physical.
It had to do with directing myself within schoolwork which is what I started my 21 days of writing with. I have a particular experience within school because I had a formative experience as a child where I would go completely into the mind and escape during school, waiting out the day as if it were some form of torture I had to be subjected to -patterns I have been falling for ever since. I was labeled as 'slow' and put in special classes which confirmed to me any self-definition I had held of being incapable of doing what others could do. I felt like I had a design flaw so what was the point in trying?
So now I'm facing this accepted and allowed behaviour after more than 20 years of it being a big part of who I have accepted and allowed myself to become. It has been frustrating me that I see the problem and have not walked my self-stated solution. Luckily I'm back in the same situation with having to direct my focus through a large project today, so I'll be back at it, pushing myself to walk my self-correction. End Quote.
Yep thats what it comes down do, to actually just do it. Even when you dont feel like it, when you know you gotta do it just do it. Dont contemplate it, really push yourself. And until you learn that there is nothing that can help you. And I know what your talking about lol I often had it that I didnt want to start boring schoolwork. But I had to push myself and then I actually liked it. Part of it is also not thinking 'oh i would like to do something else', or 'i want to check this or that', not following such thoughts but really staying with what you are doing. So unless you push yourself no one will.
Ya Ann,
Once I got started and recognized that the physical resistance I was feeling was actually the physical manifestation of my own backchat, it really made it easier to push through.
When I start feeling like the work is really hard or long etc... I check my backchat and it's saying : this is too difficult for you, your paper is not up to par, your arguments are silly, this is taking too long, i'd rather be eating something etc etc etc etc...... then I remember it's not true, it's not too difficult, my paper is fine, my arguments are solid, it's taking as long as it needs to, I just had dinner etc etc etc.... and then the feeling goes away! I actually enjoyed it this time too, which is awesome.
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